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Carl Benjamin / Sargon of Akkad / Akkad Daily / The Thinkery / @not_sargon / @WarPlanPurple - Leader of the "Liberalists" & Droning Pseudo-Intellectual Boomer anti-SJW Activist, Applebees Waiter, Mass Shooter Whiteknight
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Does this guy even own a suit?
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"I don't have to do politics, I would like to something else... Like I would like to do aesthetics more actually..."
That's a very interesting Freudian slip. We just got a clip of Sargon himself admitting that to some extent, he doesn't like his own political content. He immediately takes offense to a comment basically saying "I need money to take care of my family, you clearly don't have one, so you will never understand why I do the things I do".
Saddest thing is, he is right. The online slop machine is merciless. He won't make any money talking about esoteric philosophy. The slop must go on.
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It's telling as well that his Lotus Eaters colleagues keep fleeing the sinking ship, presumably because they feel the same way that the online political slop content sphere is soulcrushing.
Even pompous politically obsessed hacks like Connor Tomlinson don't want to keep doing it in Sargon's form either.
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I like how his spat with Jim has been immortalized
Story of our times.
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NOTHING EVER CHANGES WITH HIM
Transcript:
Sapient Underground says, 'You get paid to complain'
"Oh well I guess I dont want anything fixed, do I? Sapient Underground. Good point.
Theres nothing that I could do to make money other than complaining about the state of my country.
And, you're right its all about me! Its all about me. Its just me that I'm concerned about.
See I know that you don't have kids because you said that. You think that I am the only person I am concerned about.
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If you look at the other vids on this channel, most of them are philosophy videos. Or I'll take a subject for 10 mins, and talk about them.
And I could do that, forever. I don't have to do politics, I would like to do something else. I would like to do aesthetics more actually.
But no, you're right I just get paid to complain and I just care about myself. Therefore, SOMEHOW I'm perpetuating the state of affairs by going through Dominic....
Somehow I'm perpetuating- The point being Sapient, you're a fucking moron and get fucked.
He goes on a bit after that, but its just more seething. He does say as well basically, "if not me, then who?"
The chatter isn't even implying that he's a selfish, Carl brought that idea up all by himself. It looks like Jim really wounded him fucking 7 years ago when he called him egotistical, and now it just comes out as an insecurity.
Honestly nothing has changed for him in the past 7 years. He has the same savior complex, he still is thin-skinned, makes the same react videos and streams, and argues about the same shit. Hell, he's still doing the same pointless lying (no his channel is not mostly esoteric philosophy).
But now, he looks much more tired. Congrats Carl, you made a bunch of money off the political slop machine and now you're in the same spot again except you're just older.
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It's a more narrow position than before. He doesn't seem to gel much with the non-libertarian right wing given all the push back he gives them whenever he talks with people to the right of him and he burned up any reputation he might have had to pivot into real world politics in his disastrous UKIP run. All he really has is the news cycle react stuff.
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Honestly, James Lindsay is kinda a sperg and he's used the phrase too much, but this is basically what he means when he talks about "Woke Right". Because most of these people, not just Sargon but many of the dissident right folks in general, are trying to go for change through marxist tactics and behaviors; not realizing they're just gonna lead to the Left becoming resurgent.
To quote a guy who put it best,
"If not me, then who?"
Someone who ACTUALLY UNDERSTANDS THE POLITICAL GAME, Carl! Honestly, half of his woes is because he took himself too seriously at the wrong places and thought he was a much bigger deal than he was! Honestly, from Liberalists to UKIP to his more 'sensible centrism' to The Lotus Eaters and whatever other shit he's recently doing with the "dissident right"/woke right, he doesn't really seem to understand that IRL is very different from online. And you can rail as much as you want online, but that means very little IRL, ESPECIALLY IN POLITICS, where they'll dredge up shit from 20 years ago to try burying your ass. Filling a room with a couple hundred people for a few hours while you spout on about political spergery is nice, but it is NOTHING compared to actual groundswells of support from the average people; the very people who he ignored during his UKIP run because he thought giving a speech somewhere in the town was more worthwhile than actually going door-to-door or making flyers or all that shit. His huge ego, thin skin, savior complex bullshit won't do a damn thing on that front, and him thinking it will is retarded, to say the least.
Honestly, the guy should've realized his TWIS was probably the best thing he ever did...but now that he's given that up, others have come who do it better than him, so he has to rely on retarded political slop (that, half the time, I don't even know how much he or the other Lotus Eaters actually read up on) to pay the bills.
The ONLY thing I would give him, is that I understand how he feels. Because current UK is a fucking hell-hole from a cultural standpoint, and seems to be going downhill FAST. To the point where I think some third-world countries are gonna be more stable than it in the long-term. So him wanting an ACTUAL leader, but despairing because ABSOLUTELY NOBODY IN CURRENT GOVT seems to show that kinda backbone to "do what needs to be done" is unsurprising.
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If Carl was smart he’d realize that he doesn’t have a political future.
If you’re lower/middle class, here are your options for effecting political change:
1. Organize and campaign
2. Go through University and become an intellectual
3. Gain media presence and build connections to spread ideas
He’s failed on all three.
1. His name is too toxic still and he probably isn’t competent enough to campaign on the ground. He also doesn’t have an overarching party apparatus that is compatible with his beliefs. AOC at least had the Dems, Carl does not have the Tories.
2. He started college too late to do this and put his all effort into YouTube. To be fair, I won’t say he’s too retarded to be an intellectual. But that’s because a lot of them are moronic.
3. Once again, his name is too toxic. If it weren’t for his outbursts and odd comments on children, then this could’ve been viable a long time ago. While his YouTube is doing better as of late, it’s not hitting the numbers necessary to make him a media mogul or shaker. He just has a nice YouTube channel.
Lotus eaters is doing ok, but also seems to be on a bit of decline. Which is also to be expected with websites like that. But even when Lotus Eaters was doing better, it’s not like Carl was actually making a difference.
The harsh reality is this, very few can make much of a change in politics. Those that can are people who sacrificed their lives to climbing the ladder and working the machine. And those very rare few who can come from the outside (Trump), also have severe limitations in their ability to effect lasting change.
Carl really should probably just have fun on YouTube at this point. Be concerned for your country, sure, but don’t let it get to you.
This is the nicest I will be to Carl. But I still consider him to be a shithead, so I take some joy in seeing him frustrated.
If you’re lower/middle class, here are your options for effecting political change:
1. Organize and campaign
2. Go through University and become an intellectual
3. Gain media presence and build connections to spread ideas
He’s failed on all three.
1. His name is too toxic still and he probably isn’t competent enough to campaign on the ground. He also doesn’t have an overarching party apparatus that is compatible with his beliefs. AOC at least had the Dems, Carl does not have the Tories.
2. He started college too late to do this and put his all effort into YouTube. To be fair, I won’t say he’s too retarded to be an intellectual. But that’s because a lot of them are moronic.
3. Once again, his name is too toxic. If it weren’t for his outbursts and odd comments on children, then this could’ve been viable a long time ago. While his YouTube is doing better as of late, it’s not hitting the numbers necessary to make him a media mogul or shaker. He just has a nice YouTube channel.
Lotus eaters is doing ok, but also seems to be on a bit of decline. Which is also to be expected with websites like that. But even when Lotus Eaters was doing better, it’s not like Carl was actually making a difference.
The harsh reality is this, very few can make much of a change in politics. Those that can are people who sacrificed their lives to climbing the ladder and working the machine. And those very rare few who can come from the outside (Trump), also have severe limitations in their ability to effect lasting change.
Carl really should probably just have fun on YouTube at this point. Be concerned for your country, sure, but don’t let it get to you.
This is the nicest I will be to Carl. But I still consider him to be a shithead, so I take some joy in seeing him frustrated.
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Apparently, Carl either predicts the future or has taken his views from a blind Baba Vanga.
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Then you just focus on your kids and family.
My biggest point is that he's too invested into politics and has an unrealistic idea about his impact or potential. Its less, "Don't care lmao" and more spend your energy more wisely.
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I don't understand why people with financial means or income not tied to their geographic location don't just leave the uk, canada, and other doomed places that cannot be saved even by the hand of God at this point. Staying in these places is like refusing to go underground when you hear the air raid siren.
Because most people who actually have the means to do so have likely long been insulated from the bullshit to begin with(because their income allows them to just ignore everything going on around them because they don't interact with it) or don't perceive it as an issue(because they agree with it). And of course people with the means to pack up and move isn't a guarantee that their new location will stay the way it was when they decided to move there to begin with if they gain the ability to vote.
This comes up all the time even within the United States. People from California packing up and moving to a "free state" and given enough time you end up with Colorado, Texas, etc. developing into liberal shitholes like the one they left because they took their voting habits with them.
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Watched the first minute and realized this dude is doing an extended version of a pre-benzo rehabbed Jordan Peterson tangent. Like, this same thing was JP's wheelhouse nearly a decade ago talking about archetypes and fairy tales and ancient wisdom. Their version is just more drawn out and without any spontaneity.
Some of us have families, friends, communities, local investment, a sense that we owe something to the place where we were raised and a feeling of home in towns and cities that our families have lived in for generations.
If you don't care about such things, then you deserve all the mass immigration and lack of investment you get.
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Found this comment on Carl's April 19th, 2025 video giving Boomer tier "just work hard & start your own small business" encouragement to Gen Z hopeless NEETs.
The comment is on point re: Sargon's "Just do it" bootstraps advice. But what stood out to me was the commenter specially referring to Carl "packing bananas" thrice.
Was Carl a grocer or a warehouse worker before he became Sargon?
I went back to the awful OP and did a few keyword searches of the thread, but didn't come across any Carl past employment.
In this very video, Sargon implies he was more of an Office Space/Fight Club/The Matrix tier soulcrushing corporate cubicle farm drone rather than a more blue collar type before becoming a FT influencer.
The comment is on point re: Sargon's "Just do it" bootstraps advice. But what stood out to me was the commenter specially referring to Carl "packing bananas" thrice.
Was Carl a grocer or a warehouse worker before he became Sargon?
I went back to the awful OP and did a few keyword searches of the thread, but didn't come across any Carl past employment.
In this very video, Sargon implies he was more of an Office Space/Fight Club/The Matrix tier soulcrushing corporate cubicle farm drone rather than a more blue collar type before becoming a FT influencer.
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I do recall him being a dishwasher and later having an admin job at the local council.