JFG / Jean-Francois Gariepy / jfgariepyneuro / The French Pervert / The Public Space - Warski's Abusive Ex-BF, Racist Streamer, Failed Academic, Potato Masher, Kristi Winter's BFF, Kero Defender

What happened to Momma JF?

  • Alive and enjoying life as a free spud.

    Votes: 149 6.9%
  • Murdered while hitchhiking.

    Votes: 162 7.5%
  • Lost in the woods.

    Votes: 196 9.0%
  • The potato was sliced and served... french fried.

    Votes: 1,665 76.7%

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I know that there are this neo-hippie types and their do their travels and stay in neo-hippie communes and all that but what she describes in the video is on the extreme side. Searching for food in trash, sleeping in the open somewhere, hitchhiking, etc, etc? That is extreme nowadays, most neo-hippies are bourgeoise who have at least some money and a plan. I have seen some of them ridding +100k euro campervans...
It's not extreme nowadays or ten years ago when Elora was doing it. I did it and met a ton of friends doing it, too. There are huge networks of hostels, campgrounds, and couchsurfing websites that cater to these types. You meet everyone from free love hippies to music festival wooks to hikers to crust punks to normie university kids having adventures between semesters. Hitchhiking, stowing away on trains, freeganing, dumpster diving, and sleeping under the stars are all standard features of this style of travel to one degree or another. I never met any rich hippies doing glamping, those folks exist in a parallel universe and aren't mingling with those of us sleeping 12 to a room in a hostel and doing magic tricks for pocket change.

I'm sorry but I don't know what to say to you except that what you're claiming is simply not true and I have no idea where you're getting it from.
 
It's not extreme nowadays or ten years ago when Elora was doing it. I did it and met a ton of friends doing it, too. There are huge networks of hostels, campgrounds, and couchsurfing websites that cater to these types. You meet everyone from free love hippies to music festival wooks to hikers to crust punks to normie university kids having adventures between semesters. Hitchhiking, stowing away on trains, freeganing, dumpster diving, and sleeping under the stars are all standard features of this style of travel to one degree or another. I never met any rich hippies doing glamping, those folks exist in a parallel universe and aren't mingling with those of us sleeping 12 to a room in a hostel and doing magic tricks for pocket change.

I'm sorry but I don't know what to say to you except that what you're claiming is simply not true and I have no idea where you're getting it from.
I concede. I honestly thought that "no-dime-in-my-pocket" type of travel was becoming extinct...
 
I concede. I honestly thought that "no-dime-in-my-pocket" type of travel was becoming extinct...
To be clear, this is a young person's game. Once you're past your early 20s, sleeping in campgrounds and sneaking onto trains and traveling across the continent with some people you just met loses its luster for most (edit: unless you're a vagrant and/or a drug addict, but as much as JF tries to force Elora into this box I don't think that's the type of "free spirit" that she was). As much as she may have fond memories of this period of her life I don't believe that 30-year-old Elora would want to abandon her children to return to what she was doing fresh out of high school. As @MrSlongDong said, it feels like another fiction contrived by JF, who as a sociopath doesn't understand the distinction between what appears logical on paper and the way that human beings actually behave.

In order for JF's story to make sense, Elora has to be a reckless, selfish, impulsive, "insane crackhead"; and at the same time a careful and meticulous planner ensuring JF and their children are taken care of before vanishing like Keyzer Soze. It's hard to reconcile these two ideas in one person, and clearly the police don't buy it.
 
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I honestly thought that "no-dime-in-my-pocket" type of travel was becoming extinct...
To be clear, this is a young person's game.
I was going to leave that thread until something new came up (don't want to bury useful information under my own posts about this couple). I would tend to agree with ZeroZero here simply for the fact that Elora ended up in a refugee camp in Morocco where she had to pretend that she was a muslim woman after losing her passport, putting on a hijab, in order to be expatriated to Europe with other muslim migrants by the UN. I would say this probably crosses the line from being a careless young backpacker into dangerous behavior. Same goes with being homeless and looking for food in trashcans, I have been around backpackers and stayed at hostels when I was young and free in Europe, that is still a bit extreme for my taste. I have also seen pictures of her in that thread attending a protest completely naked and she appeared to be the only naked person at the protest and there are a bunch of men around her, snapping pictures of her while she smiles unconcerned as always (around page 69 if you're curious). I haven't shared those or brought that up because I didn't want people to jump to conclusions and I'm aware this helps JF's side of the story.

That being said I have my own thoughts on this. I think the stories that she told in the video might have been a little bit exaggerated. We have all been in these situation where we make old stories about our life sound more dangerous or exciting that they actually were. This is a big speculation but part of me also doesn't discount the fact that JF might have encouraged her to exaggerate these stories to make it sound like she was irresponsible. In that respect, it would be interesting to know when she recorded that video (all I could find was a re-upload).

I think in general, once she was with JF, she wasn't this person anymore. She was with a man that, she seemed to have loved (even though he didn't love her), she wanted to have his children, she was reportedly working a job and she ended up having two children with him. That changes a person. Of course, she might have had a longing for her previous life and the carefree existence she once led but as Sentient Cloud said, she wasn't actually retarded, she was aware of her age, she was in her 30's (not saying that's old!) and she had two kids

I have been around hippies and carefree women, once they find a man they love, they change. Hippies setlle down. I find it very very difficult to believe that a woman in her 30's with two kids and a husband would just decide to walk off to be a homeless drug addict. Where I agree with Sentient Cloud is that her backpacking adventures to Europe were just that, a trip. It wasn't a life choice. It was just a little adventure she had when she was young. If she really wanted to live like that, she would probably have gone back to Texas first, or found a commune in Canada, or travelled back to Europe, to the Netherlands for example to live with hippies on a farm. It's just weird that she would go, "yeah I want to be a homeless drugie... in Moncton, drop me at the bridge hubby". I initially thought that maybe she had suspected that JF didn't love her and she did this as a test and then either killed herself when she realised he actually didn't care (after the alleged 19 June 2023 last phone call to him) or got picked up by a predator and was killed (which happened frequently with homeless women especially if they are new to an area). I find these (depressing) possibilities less likely now that I have thought about it because again she had 2 kids and also having watched more of JF's stream in April and May I find his behavior and words suspicious (especially the fact that she was 'punished' and then she was gone).

Another thing that I might as well mention now, is the last known sighthing on 19 June 2023 in the context of the special police power given to the police under the Prince Edward Island Missing Persons Act. I am 90% sure that there is no CCTV footage of Elora in Moncton on that date. In fact I don't think the police even used GPS data to confirm where she was. All the speculations made about this stem from the police report which says they were planning to use their new power under the 2021 Act in order to confirm the sighthing - as far as I'm aware, the police never stated they actually did so. In fact I went and checked as many press reports I could find and the police report and I couldn't find a confirmation that the police had actually checked CCTV footage or even GPS data. I also used an AI to scan for articles and their content, and despite multiple attempts, no confirmation either. In fact, this seem to be a misunderstanding as a result of this Yahoo article:
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So it seems that some journo said that the police had the ability to check GPS data and surveillance footage and eveybody went "well they probably did, then".

This is the google map link to Albert Street, Moncton, NB Canada, where she was last seen (allegedly): https://maps.app.goo.gl/EsUzRvC9ReX5g3k7A

It seems to be a place where homeless people can be found. On Google street view, I could see a one-legged lady that looked homeless. It's incredibly desolate.
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and there seems to be a homeless camp if you look in that direction (refer to the minimap bottom left corner)
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There is no CCTV camera on google street view but the images are from 2019 so I did some research and the city did install CCTV cameras in this area but these weren't fitted until July 2023, so when Elora went missing there was no CCTV camera on that street, period. As people have already pointed out, if there are GPS data, it's plausible this was planted by JF who was not streaming and not accounted for between 17 June and 20 June 2023. If he did kill here he would have had her phone and could have just thrown it there from his car towards the homeless camp.

So homeless people + no CCTV is your sighthing.
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I also re-attached the official RCMP report about this.
 

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I would tend to agree with ZeroZero here simply for the fact that Elora ended up in a refugee camp in Morocco where she had to pretend that she was a muslim woman after losing her passport, putting on a hijab, in order to be expatriated to Europe with other muslim migrants by the UN.
That's not exactly what happened. She and her boyfriend wanted to go to Africa, but her passport had been stolen and she "couldn't" leave the EU (obviously she could have gone to any Canadian embassy and gotten a new one). Her boyfriend had the brilliant idea to go to Ceuta, which is Spanish territory and therefore passport-free, and then cross illegally into Morocco. They managed to sneak across the neutral zone, hung out with some migrants for a bit, then snuck back into Ceuta by blending in with a group of Moroccan women who were visiting a Sunday market (there are a ton of short-term border crossings between Ceuta and Morocco due to tax-free shopping).

Definitely not the best situation to be in but far from the wildest backpacker story I've ever heard. And like you said, I suspect Elora is embellishing the details somewhat.

Another thing that I might as well mention now, is the last known sighthing on 19 June 2023 in the context of the special police power given to the police under the Prince Edward Island Missing Persons Act. I am 90% sure that there is no CCTV footage of Elora in Moncton on that date. In fact I don't think the police even used GPS data to confirm where she was.
This is the only statement RCMP have made about the sighting: October 6, 2023, Charlottetown - RCMP continue their investigation to locate Élora Patoine. RCMP have learned that her last known sighting was on Albert Street in Moncton on June 19. She was last seen wearing a brown faux leather jacket, black pants and had a school bag with her. RCMP have made use of the new Missing Persons Act as part of this investigation.

This is the google map link to Albert Street, Moncton, NB Canada, where she was last seen (allegedly): https://maps.app.goo.gl/EsUzRvC9ReX5g3k7A

It seems to be a place where homeless people can be found. On Google street view, I could see a one-legged lady that looked homeless. It's incredibly desolate.

All of Moncton has a large homeless presence to the point where it has a professionally designed handbook on how to be homeless and yes, a lot of services are located on Albert Street. The largest homeless shelter in Moncton, Maison Nazareth, is located there.
 
I can't believe I'm getting myself into the speculation, but... Why not both? Why couldn't he hurt her at home and then left her to die? I'm talking about good old domestic violence with some bruises and a bloody nose. Imagine him going into the tard rage and actually beating her up. There's DNA all over the place. She's crying. She wants to leave. She's retarded enough to be talked into being abandoned near a forest.

That would be the scenerio I find most consistant with what we know, about the cleaning, electronical trace and so on. He talked her into fucking off into the woods.

The plan worked by miracle, but I don't think it's a weak spot in my reasoning. To the contrary - I think JF is simply a tard and that's the level of plan his impulstivity paired with cognitive impairments would allow him to come up with. Everything he says, the way he makes shit up, or builds up Mama JF to be a James Bond in a bra... Rational, sane people make their lies into something more believable. He's gotta be tarded.

Aren't psychos like that, too? Like they act on an impulse and then desperately try to patch shit up?

He has a PHD in a difficult field. Sure. Maybe he's not that bright but just that single minded? I'm not even joking here. Imagine him working 24/7. It's not like he would have had hobbies or social life. Him being a french speaker might have helped him to get a job in the US. Foreign accent and grammar could have masked tard quirks that would otherwise be obvious to native french speakers vOv
 
She's retarded enough to be talked into being abandoned near a forest
Could be, but if she'd been abandoned in a forest and just died somewhere, I feel like it'd be more likely her body would have been located by now because it probably wouldn't have been terribly well concealed.

The fact that no trace of her has been found is what makes me think that her body was hidden somewhere or encased in something where it would be hard to discover her.
 
Could be, but if she'd been abandoned in a forest and just died somewhere, I feel like it'd be more likely her body would have been located by now because it probably wouldn't have been terribly well concealed.

The fact that no trace of her has been found is what makes me think that her body was hidden somewhere or encased in something where it would be hard to discover her.

point taken. Isn't Canada mostly vast taiga, though?
 
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Watched the 2023 MATI video about it surreal they *still* haven’t found her. Is there a good rundown for what has/hasn’t happened in these past two years
 
Read the thread highlights starting here.
Given that JF almost certainly killed this person, really why hasn’t the RCMP named him in the past two years. Even just his background as “professional chud womanhater” would make him a massive redflag. His tragicomedy of a explanation only adds to that
 
why hasn’t the RCMP named him
The RCMP are going to keep their mouth shut until they have enough evidence to make an arrest. We know they have been interviewing him in PEI on several occasions and by different units. We also have confirmation from Rocky of the Real Housewives of Alberta that his case is with the PEI RCMP major crime unit.

Let's be real though, as retarded as he is JF had several months to cover up his tracks before the RCMP got involved. It is hard for even the best of police forces to make a conviction without a body and the PEI RCMP are far from the best police force.
 
Given that JF almost certainly killed this person, really why hasn’t the RCMP named him in the past two years. Even just his background as “professional chud womanhater” would make him a massive redflag. His tragicomedy of a explanation only adds to that
They are too busy investigating Wignat Fight Clubs (NS 14 and Second Sons)
 
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Im big time late and gay but this room has to be the place where the murder happened, this is probably the room where JF said he did ze renovazions.

I also hope police investigated this place before these social workers stomping around and fucking up possible evidence in the process. Atleast they filmed and leaked it, big ups for that.
 
How old were the children when Elenor "disappeared?" I am just wondering how aware they are their their mother is gone and it is extremely weird as to how it happened.

Also, it looks like JF has a hording problem. Elenor was gone long enough that every mess there was now his fault. You don't let trash and stuff pile up like that. I also now call bullshit on JF cleaning up to have thing just how he likes it. JF clearly is no neat freak.
 
It's real odd how a guy who did such a thorough job at cleaning after his wife "left" just allows his house to become messy like that. Really makes you think.
His 'cleaning' obviously meant bashing in select pieces of dry wall and never replacing them... and then chucking all of Elora's stuff out front.
 
@Unintelligence Score For a guy that messy, hoarding that much, irrespective if he says he went full clean room on the refrigerator and "replaced..." or just autisticly tore out dry wall before recognizing he doesn't have the talent or skills to replace it. There is absolutely no way he didn't make a ton of mistakes. Blood all over his hording piles. Blood on the walls and floor boards and appliances.

I hope the police got in there after the house was sold to do a forensic analysis. If the police did not collect his hoarders mess and truck trash piles they are incompetent because they missed blood splatter.
 
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What unimaginably poor taste.

What I can’t work out in his case is a motive. Why on earth would he want to fry the potato? Maybe some hidden dark reason? I suppose just hating someone is enough?

Still this is crazy. Are the Canadian authorities this incompetent that they can’t bust this creep??
I don't think he killed her out of a vendetta but as a means to fuel his ego to see if he could get away with it
 
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