Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[Mr. Manchester]

for those of you who are somehow surprised by this, heres a demonstration of how much the district judge cares about this case and what kind of grievous grimy shitlipped little goblin hes dealing with:

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Ridiculous! I think this grave error requires at least 3 more years of random bullshit to fix. I cannot slam my gavel hard enough!

 

[RussianParasite]

I am definitely a lawyer and this is legal advice.

I hope to god that Russel doesn’t figure out that if he ignores the judge’s order again (doesn’t pay Null) then his claim will be bolstered in appeals. By not paying, he’s showing that he is very serious and that the initial ruling against him was unjust. It’s called “civil disobedience,” and is where the word “civil” comes from in “civil court.”

He then not only would get a leg up in the appeals process but also avoid paying that $1,500.

 

[DiabeticSydePhil]

I think Greer pays and this drags on.

'Do it or the case is done' is the one thing that makes Greer pay.

I hope he pays and then it gets dismissed because he still hasnt forked the other paperwork over.

 

[Sexy Senior Citizen]

We have two more weeks until the Judge gives Russell two more weeks to pay. I don't know about you guys, but I can't wait!

 

[YouTube Autist]

I think Greer pays and this drags on.

I don't know. I don't think Russell will hand money to the Evil Kiwi Farms (I know it's more complicated than that, but surely that's how Russell sees it) until his arm is really twisted. If he can defer it even a little longer, I believe he will.

 

[RodgerDodger]

I think Greer pays and this drags on.

'Do it or the case is done' is the one thing that makes Greer pay.

I hope he pays and then it gets dismissed because he still hasnt forked the other paperwork over.

I would agree, but the chances of Greee putting together $1500 by the 8th seem slim. He was trying to get Null to pay $67 up front for the Utah Court Documents that the Judge ordered him to produce or face case ending sanctions over a month ago. At this point "Case ending Sanctions" have been held over his head and threatened so many times that it is just more of the white noise from the court that he ignores. Why wouldn't he. The Court continues to treat him like a retard on the playground. It's clear that while Greee appears to be doing better than he was when he was evicted last year. Dropping another $500 onto the already $1000 Sanctions bill will probably be outside his immediate means. No matter how much he puffs himself up and pretends otherwise. he is a prideful and duplicittous little fucker.

This sanctions matter may have finally pissed Barlow off to step in and kill the whole sordid mess. But that would be optimistic and assume actual normalcy and rule of law in any way applies to Null, Kiwifarms or us.

 

[Bill Evans 45]

ECF 234 (from fucking February), ECF 330 (the fraudulently-obtained subpoena while discovery was stayed), and ECF 337 (Greer's huge swath of lies to try and get out of the May 6 hearing). Not to mention Greer's continued defiance of the order to produce the Utah documents. They're all just sitting there.

That's a metric shitton of stuff sitting around for months with zero action from the judges.

I'm desperately, foolishly hoping that they've been left to sit in order to demonstrate Greee's wilful recalcitrance at dismissal, thus making any appeal less tenable. I have no confidence that this is in any way correct.

Yes I checked he has to file it with District court which means he couldn't file IFP.

He can and will file IFP. Whether or not it is granted is the issue at hand.

Dropping another $500 onto the already $1000 Sanctions bill will probably be outside his immediate means.

Not if he 'dips in to' the repeatedly referenced $5,000 he has set aside for 'business'.

As always, I am deeply pessimistic. It would be nice to be wrong.

 

[HackerX]

This sanctions matter may have finally pissed Barlow off to step in and kill the whole sordid mess. But that would be optimistic and assume actual normalcy and rule of law in any way applies to Null, Kiwifarms or us.

It's still perplexing that Russ paid the filing fee, considering the $1,000 sanction was a known known. Yeah, I get that his attempt to weasel out of them wasn't finished at the time, nor is it finished now, but he had already been politely slapped down. Why bother paying the filing fee if you're not gonna pay the sanction that will also get your case dismissed? That's the kind of disconnect that transforms Russ from a standard retard to am omega-level turbo retard MAX pro V2.

If Russ Green nay Greee nay Greer had a human brain, he should have considered the sanction a lost cause, with the off chance he was successful in getting out of it as a pure bonus. Nope. By God, he's not paying Joshua 'Kiwifarms, a website' Hardin a single red cent. Even if it means he owes 50,000 more red cents and his lawsuit getting thrown out anyways. He's taking such a principled, yet absolutely retarded, stand on the sanctions.

 

[RodgerDodger]

Not if he 'dips in to' the repeatedly referenced $5,000 he has set aside for 'business'.

As always, I am deeply pessimistic. It would be nice to be wrong.

This fund is either a figment of his overactive imagination as his Brothel Dreams start bluring into his objective reality, or it is a safety net fund controlled by his parents intended to insure that he is not living in his car again. And that he is forbidden and restricted from using for his degenerate activities such as lawsuits and whores.

If he actually had $5000 he would have
A. Gotten him his penis sucked
B. Treated a hooker to the Girlfriend Experience
C. Sued the Hooker when she ran out the clock agains and didn't suck him his penis.

He just can't help himself.

 

[Unknown God]

He can and will file IFP. Whether or not it is granted is the issue at hand.

I imagine that if he tries to do so, Hardin will object on the very same day. IFP status still requires approval of the court, and now that Greer's status has been recently revoked by the lower court (because he himself admitted he is not a pauper anymore) I imagine that Hardin would have ammunition to argue against it being granted once it goes back to the appeals court. But as everyone has pointed out, it's hard to predict what these clowns will ultimately rule, maybe they will just take Greer's word because they are lazy and don't really want to bother looking into it.

 

[God's strongest milkman]

We have two more weeks until the Judge gives Russell two more weeks to pay. I don't know about you guys, but I can't wait!

Look you can't get spit on by a retard forever. Don't matter how much he drools naturally, it's no excuse.

Eventually the judge HAS to do something or he's just gotta lift that robe and bend over for him.

 

[Napoleon III]

I imagine that if he tries to do so, Hardin will object on the very same day. IFP status still requires approval of the court, and now that Greer's status has been recently revoked by the lower court (because he himself admitted he is not a pauper anymore) I imagine that Hardin would have ammunition to argue against it being granted once it goes back to the appeals court. But as everyone has pointed out, it's hard to predict what these clowns will ultimately rule, maybe they will just take Greer's word because they are lazy and don't really want to bother looking into it.

See below

Keep in mind Greer has to pay $605 to file an appeal. Yes I checked he has to file it with District court which means he couldn't file IFP. I even went and got the form you'd need to file IFP to prove you file with the District court several pages back.

He can and will file IFP. Whether or not it is granted is the issue at hand.

Fair

 

[The Dude]

C. Sued the Hooker when she ran out the clock agains and didn't suck him his penis.

It wasn't the hooker who ran out the clock before "getting down to business", it was Russhole himself because he wanted to play boyfriend/girlfriend make-believe. The hooker was doing her job: fulfilling her client's fantasy. If Russ had said "Hey, let's hurry and get nasty while we wait for Olive Garden to open." then he would have gotten laid AND gotten his Olive Garden date, but he didn't. He wasted time then, and he's wasting time now with this lolsuit.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

He can and will file IFP. Whether or not it is granted is the issue at hand.

If only someone Null had at his beck and call had experience with this...

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.vawd.119463/gov.uscourts.vawd.119463.79.0.pdf

(certification later undone by the appellate court, motion to dismiss fully denied but also the judgement affirmed in Null's favor)

(the other appeal was also dismissed on other grounds independently)

IFP status still requires approval of the court,

Oooooordinarily, yes, but federal rules of appellate procedure has an exception for when IFP was previously granted with the exception having two exceptions to it as well.

We have two more weeks until the Judge gives Russell two more weeks to pay. I don't know about you guys, but I can't wait!

This is a shit take. Ignoring everything else, every increased sanction is an increased amount Null can later collect on. With a writ of garnishment filed, it doesn't matter whether Russ wants to pay or not, if he makes money, 18%-85% of the amount he made per week can go to Null (the percentage differs based on how much Russ makes). If Russ ever aquires property at any time in his life and is still indebted to Null, he can seize it with a writ of attachment. Null can always also let the debt accrue interest and balloon out before collecting, or he can always just sell the debt to people who REALLY REALLY don't care whether or not Russ wants to pay.

Point is, the higher the number the District Judge puts on the piece of paper, the better it is ultimately for Null

 

[Ralph Barnhardt]

Look you can't get spit on by a retard forever. Don't matter how much he drools naturally, it's no excuse.

You can't get spat on by a retard forever for free. However, this judge is on the clock and gets paid to have Russ forever tell the court that he doesn't know what the fuck he's doing and ask the court to just let him do whatever the hell he wants.

Eventually the judge HAS to do something or he's just gotta lift that robe and bend over for him.

If the judge wasn't willing to do anything when it's been proven that Russ is not taking this seriously, wasiting the court's time, and flat out lied to the court and Hardin then I'm incredibly skeptical that he'll do a single thing other than let this drag out as long as he can. He either hates the site that much, is that incompetent, has found found a cash cow to keep him and his staff paid, or a mixture of all three and so many other options. I don't think he even cares about any potential damage this may have to the image of the judicial system. He's already broke rules just because he can. Hell man, the Winnemucca shit should've been enough for the judge rain hellfire down on Greee but he doesn't seem to care that Russ lied to them and didn't pay attention to a hearing in his own suit all in service of Russ trying to get his dick wet. The one saving benefit of this case for the judge is that nobody outside of this site gives a shit about it and it's ramifications. Null would have to go onto something like Rogan or Theo Von's show or whatever podcast and spend an hour explaining the lore surrounding this case before he even got to it being thrown back to Utah. There's a real risk of eyes glazing over like you trying to explain to a 14 year old today why Loss.jpeg is funny. The people at the court involved with this I assume are not dumb people and thusly are not unaware of this concept. I have to imagine that they believe they're safe from scrutiny especially because there's already a ruling from the 10th circuit against Null.

 

[LiquidChrisRespecter]

he can always just sell the debt to people who REALLY REALLY don't care whether or not Russ wants to pay.

Given how funny the last repossession arc was, this has incredible potential to be extremely fucking funny.

Let him explain to the debt collection equivalent of Dog the Bounty Hunter that the debt is void because he got an email calling him a poopyhead and was beamed in the head with a gallon of 2% whole milk.

 

[Swole McPole]

Eventually the judge HAS to do something or he's just gotta lift that robe and bend over for him AGAIN.

FTFY.

 

[Null]

No, he lost his right to do so. There is still such a thing as a permissive counterclaim. The court would have to approve it. It would also be retarded to do.

Greer filed an amended complaint. The timeline of the case is wonky and there's a stay, so we could actually counterclaim.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Greer filed an amended complaint. The timeline of the case is wonky and there's a stay, so we could actually counterclaim.

But only for the new stuff, right?

 

[Null]

But only for the new stuff, right?

No. Him filing an amended complaint reset the entire case. It's basically like nothing before it happened. The 10th's decision isn't even binding anymore.