Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

[30+GameOvers]

Whooooa hold on a second here. I'm currently watching/listening to a Hoenn retrospective video, and in ORAS, with the New Mauville stuff that you read in the Sea Mauville wreck, he's mentioning that apparently Infinite Energy is literally fueled by Pokémon souls and there was a cult Watson was a part of in attempt to use this to become Hoenn's new energy resource. Like holy shit???

Teraleaks showed that you would actually get to explore New Mauville in the post game, so I guess the lore would actually matter there.
Back in the day on Emerald I always imagined that New Mauville was a nuclear bunker or a failed utopian society that Watson tried to create. He seems like the type, fits in with his eccentric personality and being an inventor, also fits with the game's theme of natural disasters/Atlantis(Teraleaks show that Atlantis would have been a central plot point/have lore that some Pokemon would revolve around, it is strongly implied that Sootopolis was originally that location). There is no reason to call that place "New Mauville" unless people lived there/there were plans for people to live there, otherwise why not just call it "Power Plant" or whatever?

 

[Retarded Weeb]

Whooooa hold on a second here. I'm currently watching/listening to a Hoenn retrospective video, and in ORAS, with the New Mauville stuff that you read in the Sea Mauville wreck, he's mentioning that apparently Infinity Energy is literally fueled by Pokémon souls and there was a cult Watson was a part of in attempt to use this to become Hoenn's new energy resource. Like holy shit???

Sort of. It's not really Pokemon souls but their "life energy", and it's depicted as benign because unlike the Ultimate Weapon in XY that ran off the same energy by sucking Pokemon dry until they died, Devon Corporation harvests "excess" life energy from Pokemon sitting in the PC boxes.

I'm not sure what the person you were listening to interpreted as a cult, Watson wasn't even involved in Infinity Energy, I don't think. Infinity Energy was developed by Devon, while Watson was a part of Greater Mauville Holdings. which developed Mauville City, Sea Mauville, and New Mauville, with Watson's main role in the backstory being that he led a working revolt against the company to have New Mauville shut down for environmental reasons. I think the only connection between the two companies is an old document somewhere shows that Stern (the ship captain in Slateport) used to be a corporate spy who leaked information about Devon's development of Infinity Energy to Mauville Holdings.

 

[Grayback]

Which of the Switch games are the best? I already have BD and it's good but not as good as I remember the DS ones being. Are the Eevee and Pikachu ones any good? Haven't played Sword/Shield and Scarlet/Violet.

Sword & Shield feel like a distilled, refined version of all of the preceding DS & 3DS Pokémon games, with the deep parts getting deeper, and the streamlined parts getting even more streamlined. People won't like every design choice (like I think the routes are too short), but it really feels like the culmination of everything that Game Freak tried to do for decades before on worse hardware, except that this time they were finally able to execute their vision. Again, not everybody likes this vision (and they can't wait to let you know it), but if you like Pokémon games in general, I think that you'll like these games.

Let's Go Pikachu & Let's Go Eevee are meant for a different audience: little kids. Their presentation (art, music, etc.) is fantastic, but the gameplay loop is really cut down and made more casual. Wild encounters are no longer battles. You just try to catch the Pokémon that you find by throwing balls at them, like in Pokémon GO. Some people like that change because of the gameplay variety that it offers, and they like the more-relaxed feel of the game overall. But it this kind of game isn't what you're looking for, then it really won't feel like it. Also, these games go through Kanto again, which lots of people are tired of.

Scarlet & Violet are open-world games. The change in direction definitely feels different from all past Pokémon games, even though they're still quite similar. There are still about a dozen main towns, most of which have a gym leader that you should fight eventually, and you still run around getting into battles and building your team in hopes of beating the champion eventually, and maybe stopping some rivals or a villainous team along the way. The biggest change is in being able to set your own direction for where to go and which main stories to pursue. The games have graphical shortcomings and glitches, the classic aesthetics of how things are presented to you (like in menus) feel stripped down, and parts of the open world feel empty. But if you want to try exploring on your own, no past Pokémon game does it like these ones do.

I'll leave the descriptions of Legends: Arceus to the people who have more experience with it than I do.

 

[Archeops]

I’ve gotten off of my ass and I’m back to trying to complete the Kanto and Sinnoh Pokédexes on HOME again, the Kanto Dex is going well (thank goodness for wild Legendary Bird spawns even if they’re rarer than hen’s teeth) and I’m dreading the Sinnoh Dex since I might actually have to pick up a copy of Shining Pearl to complete it.

TBF I blame Wizards of the Coast for the problems with the TCG more than scalpers themselves. They just take advantage of the horrible decisions in managing the card game that TPC has made.

Funnily enough Wizards of the Coast lost any control of the Pokémon TCG’s back in 2003, it’s been in hands of The Pokémon Company International (known as Pokémon USA back in those days) since then.

That said TPCi’s handling of the TCG isn’t any better since getting chase cards like Secret Illustrator Rares is a pain in the ass.

 

[Grayback]

I’m dreading the Sinnoh Dex since I might actually have to pick up a copy of Shining Pearl to complete it.

Are you open to using trading to complete the dex, or does every Pokémon have to be one that you caught yourself?

 

[Archeops]

Are you open to using trading to complete the dex, or does every Pokémon have to be one that you caught yourself?

That's what I'm doing for LGPE's HOME Pokédex. It's actually kind of easy due to people wanting LGPE version exclusives and, in the case of dunderheads demanding difficult Pokémon like trade evos, GO-to-LGPE transfers.

Unfortunately completing BDSP is a bit more painful for the same reason why LGPE's HOME dex is so easy. Specifically asking for a Pokémon that can travel to LGPE means that you can only get LGPE-origin or GO-origin Pokémon but doing the same for a BDSP compatible Pokémon means you're "open" to getting them from 3-to-4 more games in addition to BDSP itself.

EDIT: The Kanto Pokédex is is done, completing it was easy barring finding a Pinsir due to its 1% encounter rate. All that's left now are the Galar Pokédexes and the Sinnoh Pokédex and I'm technically done.

 

[X-avier cuck]

Which of the Switch games are the best? I already have BD and it's good but not as good as I remember the DS ones being. Are the Eevee and Pikachu ones any good? Haven't played Sword/Shield and Scarlet/Violet.

It's typically a case of YMMV but I think most people would probably say you should go with Pokemon Legends Arceus.

From a critical standpoint it's the most positive one and when you get into the fandom spaces it's typically not like because of how much of a departure it is from what most people are familiar with but outside of that it's pretty nice

It focuses primarily on catching Pokemon and completing task with them which really can be done incredibly quickly and there's a lot of side quests that's tied into the development of the world around you so things are always changing.

Pokemon scarlet/violet are the most recent titles and are either a love it or hated kind of thing where it's an open world and has arcing things you can do but the bugs and glitches make it feel like a modern-day Pokemon Red and Blue in the worst way possible

 

[Abella]

Funnily enough Wizards of the Coast lost any control of the Pokémon TCG’s back in 2003, it’s been in hands of The Pokémon Company International (known as Pokémon USA back in those days) since then.

WotC’s biggest mistake was trying to change a Japanese game to suit American palates. I’m not talking all of the mistranslations and errors like dark vileplume’s nonholo version being weak to fighting. One of the more shitty things they did was split up the neo files collections into promos and bulk rares, omitting the charizard from neo files 2 in order to keep people buying base set and base set 2 in order to obtain a functional copy, despite it being practically unplayable.

That said TPCi’s handling of the TCG isn’t any better since getting chase cards like Secret Illustrator Rares is a pain in the ass.

After they announced they’d dumb down the game to keep people buying cards keep the players on parity they lost a huge chunk of their players and had to turn to collectors and gambling addicts serious collectors.

One of the things I think is hilarious is this whining over mega evolutions in the upcoming set, to no one’s surprise, called mega evolution. There’s this concern that triple prize Pokemon are going to ruin the game again because they definitely weren’t terrible the first time around. I don’t know if any of these people remember tag team GX or Vmax, but none of that really broke the game either, especially given that losing them took half the prizes.

 

[anliteralidiot]

It's typically a case of YMMV but I think most people would probably say you should go with Pokemon Legends Arceus.

From a critical standpoint it's the most positive one and when you get into the fandom spaces it's typically not like because of how much of a departure it is from what most people are familiar with but outside of that it's pretty nice

It focuses primarily on catching Pokemon and completing task with them which really can be done incredibly quickly and there's a lot of side quests that's tied into the development of the world around you so things are always changing.

Pokemon scarlet/violet are the most recent titles and are either a love it or hated kind of thing where it's an open world and has arcing things you can do but the bugs and glitches make it feel like a modern-day Pokemon Red and Blue in the worst way possible

You also don't need to do any trading to 100% the Pokedex in Arceus, but you do need a minimum on the research level for each pokemon to get the shiny charm.

I got a Mime Jr in it the other day, and I'm happy, because it's rare that I can change the display picture on it these days. I've got over 50% of my Pokedex displayed with the shiny pics!

 

[negativlad]

What's the best romhack of Gen2 so far? I never played Gold, Silver or Crystal and I'm looking for what to play next. I know there are the Drayano hacks, but I'm not looking for a difficulty hack, just quality of life features

For a vanilla-adjacent Crystal experience, Polished Crystal or Crystal Legacy are pretty good. Legacy stays pretty close while making a couple of “improvements” to the base game; Polished lets you change the base game as much as you like as far as Abilities, Phys/Special split, DVs or EVs and so on.

I like Crystal Clear’s open world and myriad QoL improvements a lot (DV scanner, chaining, an item for Cut, custom palettes, like 15 starters to choose from, etc.) but there are a lot of Discord guest trainers, and the entire E4 has been replaced by them, which might not be everyone’s preference.

 

[The Cum Beast]

What's the best romhack of Gen2 so far? I never played Gold, Silver or Crystal and I'm looking for what to play next. I know there are the Drayano hacks, but I'm not looking for a difficulty hack, just quality of life features

A more obscure one that I enjoyed is 'kalos Crystal' it's basically crystal but with only gens 5 and 6 pokemon, it adds the fairy type, includes some modern moves, and has dark as physical while having ghost as special.

It's the sequel of unova red, which is of course kanto but with only gen 5 pokemon

 

[Kier Starmer]

I just want some fucking Jellicents and frillish for my Gardevoir, but what I am tinkering with is Jellicent ex / Steven's Metagross because X-Boot works with psychics. In theory, Metagross is now a box Pokémon because you can shove it in Gardevoir ex as it solves one of the core weaknesses of the deck, and that is not having psychic energy in discard.

I wanted to pre-order the mega booster box, but guess what...
Can you please sort your stock for fuck sake, TPC, a lot of it is due to people leaving Yu gi oh and Lorcana and them divesting into Pokémon, but this is ridiculous now.

edit, in regards for S/V on Switch 2 for some reason I found the digital version was relatively bug free. I had S on catridge and though updated it was more buggy.

 

[30+GameOvers]

I tried uploading the video directly, but it isn't going thru

Not much new info from Teraleaks, but here is one content creator who took some footage when that was going on. This is pretty much everything the Black/White beta builds have to offer. Right off the bat you will notice that Route 2 and the nearby town were completely different, for example Route 2 being much longer and the town having grafitti/garbage cans, probably going to be more run down and urban looking.

 

[Archeops]

I just want some fucking Jellicents and frillish for my Gardevoir, but what I am tinkering with is Jellicent ex / Steven's Metagross because X-Boot works with psychics. In theory, Metagross is now a box Pokémon because you can shove it in Gardevoir ex as it solves one of the core weaknesses of the deck, and that is not having psychic energy in discard.

Japan had their major tournament of the year (with Worlds invites on the line) last month and Jellicent ex only saw use in Gardevoir ex, mixing Jellicent ex with Steven’s Metagross ex makes you weak to Flareon ex decks and some decks that run Blaziken ex.

That said Steven’s Metagross ex did see wins in City League tournaments with a support ‘mon for a little while.

I wanted to pre-order the mega booster box, but guess what...
Can you please sort your stock for fuck sake, TPC, a lot of it is due to people leaving Yu gi oh and Lorcana and them divesting into Pokémon, but this is ridiculous now.

I’ve had more success with Pokémon Center than I had with other vendors, their queue actually works against most bots on every post-Destined Rivals ETB drop.

That said you need to really careful with your choice of device and browser, smartphones and tablets have a bad tendency of triggering their site’s autoblock and said autoblock isn’t a fan of browsers with tab autorefresh features.

 

[Celebrate Nite]

for example Route 2 being much longer and the town having grafitti/garbage cans, probably going to be more run down and urban looking.

LOL idk why they removed it, considering that the first few towns before the 3rd gym are supposed to resemble Brooklyn, it would have been 100% accurate.

 

[Computer God Autism]

LOL idk why they removed it, considering that the first few towns before the 3rd gym are supposed to resemble Brooklyn, it would have been 100% accurate.

Because it's an idealized version of NYC and it would have clashed heavily with the Japanese playerbase's notions of cleanliness.

 

[Celebrate Nite]

Because it's an idealized version of NYC and it would have clashed heavily with the Japanese playerbase's notions of cleanliness.

Well the Japanese need to get out of their "cleanliness" bubble every once in a while and realized not everyone is "idealized" as they are.

Besides, kiiiiiiiiiiiiinda hypocritical they would remove graffiti in BW but allow Team Skull to live in the fucking ghetto and do whatever they want in SM, including spraypaint the floors and walls.

 

[Registration]

Can't wait for this

https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonROMhacks/comments/1m0xa9g/huge_pokemon_clover_news_pokemln_clover_will_be/

 

[Computer God Autism]

Besides, kiiiiiiiiiiiiinda hypocritical they would remove graffiti in BW but allow Team Skull to live in the fucking ghetto and do whatever they want in SM, including spraypaint the floors and walls.

I disagree, GF actually cared about BW and put effort into it, they didn't for SM.

 

[Mike Matei's Penis]

Why do I keep coming back to this series? It's just mashing A for 8 gym leaders every game, or mashing A in turbo on an emulator. Nostalgia a hell of a drug.